Christian Solorzano [00:00]

Hello, you're listening to Underscore, a show by the Chicago Graphic Design Club. I am the host, Christian Solorzano, and today's episode is going to be very different because it is not going to be an interview. Rather, it is going to be a conversation between myself and my partner, my design club partner, Cheryl Bever. And together we're going to be talking about all things 2025 Chicago Graphic Design Club and reflecting on some of our favorite moments that really shaped this year.

And you're also going to get a little glimpse into just some of the stuff that we think about when we plan events. And it's just a nice, candid insight into what goes on behind the scenes. So I personally just want to tell you, thank you for all of the support this year. For listening, for tuning in, and just for showing up. It means a lot to me, and because of you, we exist. So thank you for all of the support.

We're excited for a strong 2026, and we're looking forward to connecting with you next year. So as usual, thank you so much. Let's stay in touch and enjoy this very fun and lighthearted conversation. What up, Cheryl?

Cheryl Bever [01:33]

Hey, Christian.

Christian Solorzano [01:34]

How's it going?

Cheryl Bever [01:35]

I'm good. How are you?

Christian Solorzano [01:37]

I'm good too. Yeah, I— it's nice to see your face after not seeing it for over a week.

Cheryl Bever [01:43]

I know, forever.

Christian Solorzano [01:44]

We're recording this On December 5th, it's Friday, it is 2:20, and it's been cold outside and the days are getting shorter. And yeah, how's the cold?

Cheryl Bever [02:01]

On that depressing note, no, it's just been cold. Definitely, you just wanna stay inside, not go do anything.

Christian Solorzano [02:09]

Yeah. But what's your, what's your favorite thing to do when you're indoors and it's cold out?

Cheryl Bever [02:15]

I don't know. I think it kind of depends on my mood. Sometimes it's just sitting around watching TV. Other times it's— I've been trying to do collage, collaging a little bit more, kind of like a stream of consciousness thing where I'll just go through a magazine and cut out stuff and just slap on paper and whatever happens. I've been trying to do that a little bit more. I think staying inside is forcing me to do things that I've been wanting to do and haven't been.

How about you?

Christian Solorzano [02:41]

I love to sleep. I love, I love video games, but I never play video games during the, when the days are longer, just because I don't wanna be on the TV when I could be outside. But now that it's, now that it gets dark earlier, I love to play video games and just sit on the couch and relax.

Cheryl Bever [03:01]

Yeah. You've been cooking a lot more too, huh? Lots of soups and stuff and—

Christian Solorzano [03:06]

Yep. I like soups and I might even use my oven at some point.

Cheryl Bever [03:11]

What?

Christian Solorzano [03:11]

Right now my oven is just storage.

Cheryl Bever [03:14]

Really?

Christian Solorzano [03:14]

Yeah, storage. At some point I'll use it. Thanks for being on this episode today. I wanted to take this moment, this episode, to celebrate with you 2025 Chicago Graphic Design Club, 5 years of the Chicago Graphic Design Club, and express gratitude for everything that you and I have done together this year, along with our team and all our collaborators and all of that stuff. For people that are listening, today's episode is not an interview. Rather, it's just a little recap of the year.

But before we get into Chicago Graphic Design Club stuff, I feel it would be appropriate to maybe have you share with us what have been your personal milestones of this year?

Cheryl Bever [04:12]

Oh, personal milestones of this year. Let's see. I guess personally, I don't know how— I'm sure everyone knows because I talk all the time about him. I have a teenage son. He's 16. He's been driving this year, which has been a little crazy and something to get used to. On the business side, I went through a rebrand of my business signifying the growth that I've gone through and feeling I, I've elevated myself and wanted my business to reflect that.

And I thought doing a complete rebrand was the way to go. I'm really excited about the way it came out. People have been really nice about congratulating me and saying how cool it is, which makes me feel good because doing anything of yourself and on your own is always a little scary because—

Putting yourself out there and it's probably the hardest work to do. The reception has really put fuel into it, which has made it exciting for me. That's been fun to work on. And I think business-wise, always at the end of the year, it's a little slow. It's nice to have that time that I haven't had all year to work on it. I've been really working on it a lot. How about you?

Christian Solorzano [05:19]

Well, you, and you also launched a new case study this week. I did. Which is cool.

Cheryl Bever [05:25]

And I've been, I've been wanting to share that project for a long time because working with Jamie has been cool and fun. And I just, it, yeah, to me it's, the photos I took have never been perfect. The words have never been perfect. I've never shared it, which is silly because it turned out really good. And yeah, when I did, she was the first one to reply, oh my God, this is fantastic, which made me really happy.

Christian Solorzano [05:45]

So for the people that are listening that are not familiar, where can they learn more? Where can they check that stuff out?

Cheryl Bever [05:52]

Oh, my Instagram is probably best, Tandem Creative Works, or my website, tandemcreativeworks.com. Yeah. How about you? What has been your journey of this year? Your favorite points?

Christian Solorzano [06:04]

And my favorite points were, let me think. I got a new pot recently and that's been cool. I painted the wall behind me. That was pretty cool too.

Cheryl Bever [06:18]

I love that. Yeah.

Christian Solorzano [06:20]

Hosted a cool party last week. That was fun. And the release of her publication, that was cool too, but it seems it was long ago that—

Cheryl Bever [06:29]

It feels so long ago.

Christian Solorzano [06:30]

I'm like, I'm over that already. I know that I shouldn't say that. People should still purchase the copies.

Cheryl Bever [06:36]

They're still really cool.

Christian Solorzano [06:38]

They're still really cool and I'm still proud of it. But yeah, that part of my life is, feels like it's in the past. But that was a cool milestone and I think it's been nice to— this year I got the opportunity to train a lot of jiu-jitsu, which was nice.

And most recently my teacher got inducted into the Illinois Martial Arts Hall of Fame and getting a personal invitation to go to that and to sit at his table and to document the experience and to just be a part of his story was also pretty cool.

Cheryl Bever [07:15]

That's really cool.

Christian Solorzano [07:15]

And that's it. Other than that, enjoying life and one step at a time. I try to not dwell too much on milestones or anything. So. Yeah.

Cheryl Bever [07:25]

I think it's important to though, to maybe don't call them milestones. The good, the good things. I feel like you said, you feel magazine was long ago. I think when you don't stop and think about it, you forget that, oh my God, I did do this really cool thing and it wasn't that long ago. I know I find myself doing that all of the time and I think it's important. And I'm going to point out you.

I know you've been really active in your Zen Center, but you did their rebrand, which I think was really cool. What's that?

Christian Solorzano [07:52]

I forgot about that. I did.

Cheryl Bever [07:53]

Yeah, I know. Every time I've been getting their emails and the Instagram posts that you do and it's cool. Yeah. All of it. That was a good one.

Christian Solorzano [08:02]

That too. I worked on that with Carlos Segura. That was fun. And I guess I also did a few other design projects. That I also forgot about. Yes. And I'm also actively at the moment with my brother, we're building a studio together as well.

Cheryl Bever [08:23]

Yeah, that's exciting.

Christian Solorzano [08:24]

So more to come on that. That's going to be really exciting. And we're putting the finishing touches on that, on the launch that we're going to be announcing probably in early 2026. Cool. And I haven't shared this with too many people because I don't like to share things early, but since you've asked or since you brought up the topic.

Cheryl Bever [08:43]

Yeah, I know. I didn't want to specifically bring that up knowing that you didn't want to share that.

Christian Solorzano [08:48]

But yeah, that's been my life and it's been—

Cheryl Bever [08:52]

That's awesome.

Christian Solorzano [08:56]

Chicago Graphic Design Club. We did a lot of stuff this year. We did a lot of podcast episodes. We did a lot of events. We did social hours. We did just so much. And I always tell you, and I say this to everyone, that much of what we do wouldn't be possible without our, you, our team and our collaboration here. And I just feel very blessed and lucky to be able to do things with you.

Because I feel like you and I have a nice groove and a nice synchronicity where, well, I hope I'm speaking for yourself too when I say that.

Cheryl Bever [09:31]

Oh yeah, no, absolutely. You have better words than I do. Absolutely you are.

Christian Solorzano [09:34]

Yeah, it's been fun. We did a lot of events this year, I'm going to count them right now. We did 1, 2, I'm just going to read them. I have them here and people can just put up with me reading her website. So we kicked off the year with a private tour, the Letters Beyond Form at the Design Museum of Chicago. And that was an exhibition that was done for the Design Museum of Chicago.

We had nothing to do with it other than we got a private tour. By our friend Amira at the museum, which they're also our friends. Shout out to Tanner and Kevin for their support and their friendship and collaboration on everything. We did a social hour at the Garfield Park Conservatory, which is crazy to think about that it was almost a year ago.

We did our first cold style at our friend's studio, Samad Pilots. We had our 5-year exhibition at the Design Museum of Chicago. We had our Zoom talk about thinking through graphic design history where we got Zoom bombed by somebody that showed inappropriate adult video content, which I thought was kind of funny. And I hope other people did too.

Cheryl Bever [10:54]

Hilarious. We've made it. Like we joked after that, we made it. We've been Zoom bombed.

Christian Solorzano [10:59]

Yes, we have. And actually, I don't care. I'll say it. It did. After that event happened, our rating on Eventbrite did go down because— Yeah. Because when we do events, people get the opportunity to rate the event. How did it go? And for that one in particular, we got 1 star and someone said poor planning or they pretty much— Whatever. It's fine.

Cheryl Bever [11:21]

Whatever. I mean, we didn't know that was going to happen and I mean, you wouldn't think it would. Yeah. How do you prepare for that?

Christian Solorzano [11:28]

And then we had our Sputnik social hour and tour in March. We had an April social hour at a gallery cafe, Lost Larson. We did a wonderful talk with Design BnB where they walked us through their work for the rebrand of the Auditorium Theater, which you were very persistent with them.

Cheryl Bever [11:50]

Yes, I was.

Christian Solorzano [11:51]

And made it happen. So thank you.

Cheryl Bever [11:54]

Loved this rebrand so much, and I very much wanted them to share that. I actually, I've never been to the auditorium theater, and I actually just went for the first time a couple weeks ago, and I got to see this in person. It was just absolutely spectacular. It was, it was so fitting. It's so perfect. And yeah.

Christian Solorzano [12:11]

You could be like, I know who did that.

Cheryl Bever [12:12]

I know who did that. Yeah. I actually did to one of the ushers. He's like, really? I'm like, yeah. It's like I was important and had something to do with it.

Christian Solorzano [12:23]

We had a second Code Style, which is our new typography series. And those are fun and always well attended. We did a social hour in May at Buenos Days with our friend Cristobal. We did another social hour in Lincoln Park, our Faculty 2 release party at the Social Club. I always like to say that it's a gentleman's club.

Cheryl Bever [12:46]

Yeah, not a strip club.

Christian Solorzano [12:49]

Just a men's club that Anyone can go to, and everyone is welcome. We had a social hour in Chinatown. We did our photography walk in July. We did another cold style. We did a screen printing workshop in October. We had an amazing tour of the Newberry Library recently, which sold out, and it was amazing. And thank you, Cheryl, for putting that together.

Cheryl Bever [13:17]

Yeah. That was another one where selfishly I just really wanted to do it. I made it happen. Yes.

Christian Solorzano [13:24]

And on that one, I wanna personally call out Andrea for just being a wonderful host and making the connections to let us go and do that.

Cheryl Bever [13:31]

Let us do that.

Christian Solorzano [13:32]

Yeah. We had a book discussion with Erik Carter, another amazing event, social hour at the cemetery, Graceland Cemetery. Can you tell us what we do? What did we do there?

Cheryl Bever [13:44]

Yeah, so this one was really cool. We went and brought tracing paper and charcoal and we did rubbings of some of the really cool monuments and headstones that were there. Walking through there, I think you forget the craftsmanship that actually went into those. And there's just some really cool elements. And it was funny, somebody— I was talking to somebody and they had commented too, you can tell when they get a bit more recent because then it's almost like clip art.

You can tell that people would pick like, oh, I want this lettering and ooh, let's add that clip art and that clip art to our thing. And, but the older ones were really works of art. They were so cool. It was a gorgeous day too, to walk around. We were lucky.

Christian Solorzano [14:24]

And thank you for putting that together because I know that's something that we talked about doing and we made it happen. So definitely I want to do that again. I think it should be like an annual event.

Cheryl Bever [14:35]

I think so too. Yes.

Christian Solorzano [14:37]

And then we did another social hour at Loving Heart at Shimba, our friend Shimba's cafe. And that was excellent.

Cheryl Bever [14:47]

Yeah, that was a really good time.

Christian Solorzano [14:48]

And now we have a party that's coming up on December 20th.

Cheryl Bever [14:53]

The men's club.

Christian Solorzano [14:54]

Yes, at the gentleman's club.

Cheryl Bever [14:56]

Man, going through all those, I feel like 2025 was heavy on the social, huh?

Christian Solorzano [15:05]

Yeah.

Cheryl Bever [15:05]

A lot of more community meetups than— Studio tours and book discussions that we've done in the past, which I think is really cool. I think that maybe that's what this year called for, was coming together, since I feel like everything else is trying to pit everybody against each other. And yeah, we went the opposite direction and brought everybody together, which I think is cool.

Christian Solorzano [15:26]

Yeah. And I think it's nice too with the social hours because Depending on where they're at, they kind of take on a life of their own.

The cemetery one, that was very unique because it was all centered around typography, letterforms, and just something that was outdoors and that required some interactive components. Whereas the one that we did at Loving Hearts at the cafe, I feel like that lended itself more to people bringing in stuff to share and talking about like books and things. I like that the social hours kind of all naturally bring their own identity based on the location. It's been cool. But what has been your favorite event this year?

Cheryl Bever [16:10]

Wow. My favorite event. I think I have to pick a couple. The cemetery one was really fun just cuz I don't know, I really liked it there. It's quiet and it kind of takes on a whole, like you said, a whole thing of its own. I don't know, it was exciting for me putting it together. I feel like when I tell people, they'd be like, what? You're going to do what? I'm like, but no, it's really cool.

And everybody that came, a lot of people were like, oh, I've never been in a cemetery before. It's like, okay, yeah, we're just going to come in and walk around, kind of treat it like a park and not this scary, spooky place that I think gets associated with it. It was very exciting for me to see people really get into it and be really excited about doing it and just thinking, yeah, I did that. I put that together.

The Newberry, of course, hands down, that was just I was in awe that entire time we were there. And then probably the screen printing. Yeah. Because that was cool. I've never actually done it like that and having it end up being a full class was really neat.

Christian Solorzano [17:11]

Yeah. I, we did, we did see some ghosts at the cemetery. The little kids.

Cheryl Bever [17:19]

The kids. There was a group of kids that were, they were doing a fundraising for a school trip to DC and I think that they were even act— maybe acting in theater or something, cuz they seemed really good. And they memor— they went to all the famous gravestones and memorized the person's life. That was cool. That was really cute. They did a good job.

Christian Solorzano [17:39]

My favorites were definitely a cemetery. I love the Newberry. Screen printing was awesome. I love the cult style events that we've done. Just that space and the audience and just I feel like it's nice to have people come together to talk about the work, to present work, and also to have everyone walk us through their thinking and their philosophy. And you get much, you get to know how every talented person works differently.

And there's no one way. And I think sometimes for me, when I was a baby designer, I thought that there was only one way and it's like, if you wanna be good, this is the sole path. And it's been nice to—

Cheryl Bever [18:26]

Baby steps.

Christian Solorzano [18:27]

And it's been, it's been nice to see how everyone's path is different. And everyone's approach is different and there's no right way to do anything. Yeah.

Cheryl Bever [18:37]

Even when they decide to do it, to start that path and take that path, I think often it's, oh, you come outta school and you have to do these things and it's Sometimes it might come to you later. And okay. Yeah.

Christian Solorzano [18:48]

Yeah. That was cool. And I, the podcast was also cool doing all these episodes. I think this year I did 24, something like that. And it's fun. It was cool to, sometimes I think it's, I feel like I don't know too many people. I always feel like I don't, I only know 5 people in life.

Cheryl Bever [19:12]

Oh my gosh. And see, I look at you and think, oh my God, you know everyone.

Christian Solorzano [19:15]

I know, but then I'm like, wait, I've talked to 100 people almost. That's a lot of people. How do I know so many people? And then I start going through their names and I'm like, I know that person. I know that. Well, I'm like, of course I know them because I talked to them. It's always interesting because I, I'm not a people person generally. I'm just not an extrovert. I don't like to talk or any of that kind of stuff. It's, I always surprise myself.

Cheryl Bever [19:45]

And then when I— you're coming up on 100 episodes. That's coming up real soon.

Christian Solorzano [19:50]

And then sometimes when I finish an episode, I'll go back and listen to it and I'm, and it feels like I'm listening to a stranger interview someone. I'm like, who is that guy? It's me.

Cheryl Bever [20:04]

It's interesting.

Christian Solorzano [20:09]

Anyways, enough about that. You've been, you've been involved with the club for 4 years now.

Cheryl Bever [20:17]

I think so. Yeah. We always do this and I don't remember.

Christian Solorzano [20:21]

It was 2021.

Cheryl Bever [20:23]

Was it?

Christian Solorzano [20:24]

Or maybe 2020?

Cheryl Bever [20:25]

No, definitely. I was gonna say '22.

Christian Solorzano [20:27]

One of those years.

Cheryl Bever [20:29]

Yeah, one of them. Let's say in the middle of them.

Christian Solorzano [20:33]

Well, I would like to hear how you've seen the club grow as a person that is now co-leading things and putting together and organizing. And I, and I always feel, I remember when I asked you to join the team and you said, I get a lot of, I get a lot of this, a lot out of this club. And I would love to just give back somehow. And then, and now you're doing a bunch.

Cheryl Bever [20:58]

This is more than I bargained for. No, I'm kidding. I mean, seeing it grow, I feel like— I know just from the events that I've gone to, every single one always attracts new people, at least maybe 5 new people that, oh, I've never come to an event before. Oh, I just heard about you. Or, oh, my professor suggested me to you, which I think is really cool.

Social media followers, our Substack followers, that number just keeps getting bigger and bigger. I think just our reach in general. Has gotten a bit larger. Yeah, I don't know. I'm trying to compare this year to last year and it's just different. I don't know that it is something to compare to, cuz I said I feel like we did a lot more social events this year than past, which I think you just said you don't see yourself as a people person.

I think that's something that all of us are. We're all a little weird. We're all a little quirky.

And a lot of us don't have that social Skills. Skills. There you go. That's the word I was looking for. But we all come together. Everybody's comfortable with that. We kind of go in knowing you don't have to prove anything to these people. We're all come as you are. And I think that that's really cool. And I know that alone has helped me become more confident in talking and speaking in front of people because it's a bunch of people like me. I don't know.

I think that's— yeah, there's something to that. It's cool.

Christian Solorzano [22:20]

Yeah, there's a, there's a kinship that I feel. Whenever we're together with others, we're all on the same page. And regardless of whether someone's been doing this for more years, an example was during our party last week where Rick was here, but then also JJ was here. And it was just it was, we were all collab— we were not collaborators, but we were all colleagues. We were all peers.

Cheryl Bever [22:47]

Yes. All on the same level.

Christian Solorzano [22:49]

There was no hierarchy of anything. And I feel like people really appreciate that we honor that and that we don't care for where you work or what you do, or do you work at a fancy place or—

Cheryl Bever [23:03]

Because that's not who you are.

Christian Solorzano [23:04]

Yeah. It's not who you are at all. And I like that. My, I would say how this year compares to other years, I think, I feel like we're more, not that we weren't respected in the past, but I just feel like our footprint is now, the cement has dried.

Cheryl Bever [23:23]

Yeah, that's a good one.

Christian Solorzano [23:24]

And people reach out to us for opportunities and I think we're, we've proved ourselves to the point where, not that we ever, not that I ever felt like I had to prove anything, but I feel like now just our name on its own has some equity.

Cheryl Bever [23:43]

Means something. Yeah. Yeah, you're right.

Christian Solorzano [23:45]

And that's been cool. And the other thing I wanna call out that I didn't mention in our programming list is we did the Taste of Chicago with— The Design Museum. That was awesome.

Cheryl Bever [23:56]

That was really cool. We did, it was Neighborhood Tastes. Well, we do 4 events all around the city where they had flag fests and we hosted a booth for the Design Museum. People got to design flags and yeah, I mean, that field day was always fun. So doing this all around the city was really cool. Yeah, it was a good time. Yeah, for sure.

Christian Solorzano [24:18]

That was cool. And let me see what else.

Cheryl Bever [24:22]

I forgot about all the events we didn't post-post.

Christian Solorzano [24:24]

Yeah, 'cause sometimes we do things and it's just informal. Like just show up.

Cheryl Bever [24:35]

If that's possible to be even more informal than we already are.

Christian Solorzano [24:43]

I've also really, this is not club related, but I've enjoyed hanging out with you on Fridays when you come over and Nicolette comes over. And I feel like it's been nice to build friendships through the club and kind of doing our own separate, they're not events, but just, I think, and I'll say this to the people that are listening, but when we see people repeatedly come to our events, I feel they will get invited to things because their faces become familiar.

And I love that there's kind of this friendships that come out of this. Like you've been participating or just Nicolette has her coworking that she puts together every 2 weeks.

Cheryl Bever [25:25]

2 weeks. Yeah. Yeah. And that's been really fun and that's been very integral in me like working on my own stuff just because I wouldn't do it otherwise. Having that has been good. Having other people around to help and then kind of hold you accountable. For what you're working on.

Christian Solorzano [25:39]

Yeah. With that said, it's the friendships that people cultivate on behalf of the club that to me are always metrics of success. It's if 2 people are hanging out on their own because they met at one of our events, to me, that's always really a nice pat on the back. All right. We're doing something good. Yeah. What else? What are you looking forward to in 2026?

Cheryl Bever [26:06]

2026. I think as far as the club goes, we're just doing, we're just doing more, like more events and more stuff like that. I think definitely just, I think we need to do more studio tours this next year. While it's cool we did all the social stuff, I think we, I would like to see more connecting with studios in that way. And yeah, just.

Having more different events that I think people at places that people wouldn't go otherwise, kind of introduce— our city is so cool and there's so many neat things. I think it's cool to share in those things together. Maybe I wouldn't go on my own, but hey, together we can all go and do this. And I was— it'd be cool to set up like how we've been co-working with our group.

You said Nicolette and Patrick, and that it would be cool to do something and open it up wider. To more people, that would be fun. Yeah. And just kind of have more opportunities for everyone to get together and whatnot. How about you?

Christian Solorzano [27:08]

Yeah. More, always more. I would love to grow our, find a way to grow our team. And by that I mean, I would love to just have more people involved in whatever capacity they can be involved in, just because it would be nice to not have to— for you and I to not have to do so much.

Cheryl Bever [27:33]

Are you going to put the link to the form here and we all need to point to it? Please click here.

Christian Solorzano [27:39]

No, but actually, by the time this episode comes out, there should be a link to apply for a CGDC internship or volunteer.

Cheryl Bever [27:50]

Yeah, volunteer.

Christian Solorzano [27:53]

We do just, we know that there's a lot of amazing talent in the city and we can use that talent for whatever, whether it's people wanting to help with programming and to just check people in at our events or to, yeah, design merch for us or help with social media or motion or anything. I think it would just be nice to see what people have to offer and to have them contribute somehow. Yeah.

Cheryl Bever [28:18]

And to let them know that they can, because it doesn't have to just be us. It would be awesome to have some people come and help us set up chairs for our next Confronting Design event. Or you said just check people in. That would be super cool. And I think I know how it's helped me just to become more comfortable speaking to people and getting up in front of people. Just doing simple stuff like that would, it would help you a lot.

I think maybe more than you might know.

Christian Solorzano [28:38]

Yeah. That's how, I mean, that's how you started. That's how I started too, just showing up. And chipping in. Whatever happened to John Jack Hamlin? Disappeared?

Cheryl Bever [28:55]

No, he was in an art show, the 10 by 10 show, cuz my husband Michael said he saw him there and he sold his painting, which is really cool cuz that's really cool.

Christian Solorzano [29:06]

It is also really nice to see people in our community. Grow or graduate college or have it be in a show or get a job or just, it's cool to see. That's, it makes me feel proud? Like when you, when you see someone that's, oh, I'm in this show or I just got a new job or I'm working with this person. That always makes me feel proud. Proud. Not a parent.

Cheryl Bever [29:33]

Sibling. Sibling.

Christian Solorzano [29:35]

Proud sibling. Not a parent. Next year, more events, more collaborations. I would love to grow our team and I would love to, I think we're beginning to do it, highlight more voices on our Instagram and just have a broader archive of or documentation of voices and people at our events talking and sharing stories and all that kind of stuff.

Cheryl Bever [30:10]

Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna put a plug in here. Just how I mentioned before, a lot of the events I know that I put together were things I selfishly wanted to do. We're run on community. If there's anything anyone else is, oh, this would be cool, send it our way. Instagram direct message or email or whatever. We're always open to what you wanna do and we'll make it happen.

Christian Solorzano [30:32]

Or we'll make you make it happen.

Cheryl Bever [30:33]

Yeah, there you go. Yes.

Christian Solorzano [30:39]

Awesome. I don't know if there's anything else I have to say. I just want to thank you, Cheryl, for your leadership, your friendship, your thoughtfulness, and just how caring you are and just how I feel you and I complement each other very well. And I think we make a great team. And I feel like you embody all of the things that I don't have. And you're just good at, I don't know, just, you're really good.

Cheryl Bever [31:10]

Oh my God, that's so nice. Thank you so much. And same, you definitely push me and inspire me and all the times where I don't know if I wanna do this, you're just shut up and do it. And I need that. I need somebody to say that. And I'm very happy that you're that for me. And making me do the things that I wouldn't do, always believing in myself that I can do it, and for creating this space for everyone.

I think I say that all the time, but it needs to be said. Yes, this has been an amazing thing that you've created, and thank you for that. Cool. On that awkward note.

Christian Solorzano [31:51]

I have to go.

Cheryl Bever [31:52]

Bye.

Christian Solorzano [31:53]

Cool. Anyways, what are you doing for the rest of the day?

Cheryl Bever [32:02]

The rest of the day, what time is it? 3 o'clock. I am going to— actually, I want to meet with you to go over some things and then wrapping up some photo editing and yeah, pick up the kid from school and I'm going to some friend's house for a dinner party, which should be fun. How about you?

Christian Solorzano [32:21]

I'm gonna finish my soup, making my soup, and then I'm going to clean my desk. And just make things tidy in my home.

Cheryl Bever [32:33]

That always feels good. I did that on Monday and it was a great start to the week. It just felt good.

Christian Solorzano [32:38]

Gotta throw the trash out too. A lot of boxes. I bought my new pot and it came in, the pot's like this big, but the box is ginormous.

Cheryl Bever [32:49]

It's because it's so heavy.

Christian Solorzano [32:51]

It's like all bubble wrap and it's floating in the center and I had to throw that box away. Anyways, cool. Well, thanks for listening everyone.

Cheryl Bever [33:01]

You made it this far.

Christian Solorzano [33:03]

You made it this far. To learn more about us, visit us at www.chicagographicdesign.club. If anyone ever has any questions about the club, reach out to myself or reach out to Cheryl and we will answer any and all questions.

I feel, I feel there's people that reach out to you and then there's people that reach out to me and I like it. I like that there's people that probably connect more with your personality and then there's people that rather talk to me as well. So I feel like it's, that's, it's cool that there's 2 doors.

Cheryl Bever [33:43]

It is cool. Cool.

Christian Solorzano [33:45]

All right, it's me again. Thank you for sticking around till the end. That was such a fun conversation, and I just feel so lucky to be a part of all of this, and I feel lucky that you are listening. So thank you, and as always, if you want to learn more about us, visit www.chicagographicdesign.club.